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xx Reinstaling MW4 Veng.
« Thread started on: Jul 15th, 2009, 6:13pm »


Hi all,

I dunno how, but i succeed in reintsaling MW4Vengeance on my comp after 6 month of trying.

I try to go to v3 but it fail. All attemps fail. But i was able to install innersphere and clan pak. Then to reinstall almost all map except the huge mappak. i realise that the new game i bought on ebay (an english version) is installing the game MW4 Vengeance in (C;\program file\microsoft game\Mechwarrior Mercenaries\ mw4) wich is unusual. It may explain why the patch v3 get stuck. It cant find the vengeance folder since it dont exist.

Now i can change that name to (C:\program file\ microsoft game\ mechwarrior vengeance)

I can also change the name for the map editor and the map creator since i will need them to continue on map building in vengeance.
But will it affect the cdgame if i want to play. Anyway if i want to install mercenaries, it will install it in mercenaries wich is where the veng is. Told yea its weird. Now what are my best option?
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xx Re: Reinstaling MW4 Veng.
« Reply #1 on: Jul 15th, 2009, 8:10pm »

I am guessing that you are correct in trying to rename the file path to

C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\MechWarrior Vengeance

that is the exact file path I have (English version)



one other thing...if this came from over seas...make sure it is not changing the spelling of "Program" to "Programme"


Once you have it installed..I would try the "NO CD " patch to run the game..that should eliminate any issues with the CD.

oh..one more thing..I noticed in you path name you typed "Program File" not "Program Files"...dunno...





also...is this a new Vista machine? if so.....well.....we will talk about that later.....
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« Reply #2 on: Jul 16th, 2009, 12:07am »


Hey Yardbird,

You where right with having me take care to how i write the word "program". Many thanks. Also I notice that after installing the inner and clan pack that the patch pr3 say i dont need to upgrade. So i have everything up and working and i must have v3 since it say i am up to date. So the inner or clan pak have the v3 upgrade in it i suppose.

Now i went to multiplayer and i saw Tiberian server once but not anymore. I check the firewall and it say to let MW4 in. So i dunno what to do next. At lest i can play the game and start creating map again. Are wppc and Frost server on right now. Just a question in case there are not. Thanks again. smiley
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« Reply #3 on: Jul 16th, 2009, 3:48pm »

Server is back up for testing. Sorry I had it down, storms were rolling in.

I would un install all mech warrior versions and start over and make sure you make it program files and everything is named right, start the install with VENGE first.

That should work... it should,,, good luck!

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« Reply #4 on: Jul 17th, 2009, 2:05pm »

Doum, here are the Veng server IP's:

1) (DD)ShadowsOfEmpirionHLA: IP is dc7jzb.dyndns.org
2) WPPC (NHUA): IP is wppc.servegame.org
3) CLS (NHUA): IP is mech.es
4) TR (NHUA) : IP is 68.98.212.251

SoE Veng server is 24/7, with a short off-line period due to automatic server pc reboot at 5 pm CET.

Btw, for the installation path:
If you have a Veng folder
C:\program files\microsoft games\Mechwarrior Mercenaries\ mw4
that's 'cause you installed Veng AFTER installing Mercs. If you install Veng first, you will get the usual path:
C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\MechWarrior Vengeance

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« Reply #5 on: Jul 18th, 2009, 03:52am »

Thanks all for you concern and help.

Now read the step i make so yopu will see my problem.

First i try to install a patch for mw3. That crash my vengeance game and merc. So nova from mechstorm help me remove some bug. And veng star working but not with the clan and inner pak or the v3 patch. I went for 6 month without veng and trying to make map with merc but even then it didnt always work. So i install vengeance in a folder name MW4Vengeance and everything work. Wow. Tho the multiplayer have problem to connect to the site and to the lobby of any server. But it work. Now i did remove all mech game many times( 4 or 5 times) but no success. Now everything work but installing it in a folder name Mehcwarrior Vengeance will forbid the game to even start. So the mw3 patch is still somewhere in my comp and forbid me to install veng in the original folder.

Now my biggest problem is to get the multiplayer list in veng. I got a few server once but none now and i am version 3 with all the maps and clan and inner pak. And when i got a few server(2 from frost and one TR) i wasnt able to conn to it. In merc i dont have any problem at all. Mack from mechstorm help me open many port in the firewall (2300-2310 tcp and2300-2310 UDP) but no luck. I still dont see any server or if i see one i cant join it. It say server down or conn prob. That only happen in veng. No problem in Merc.

Now you know why i dont install veng in the folder MechWarrior Vengeance. Because the game wont even start if i do that. So if i cant join veng, at least now i am suppose to be able to make map for it. smiley So i will continue to try. If any of you have any idea, i will welcome it. I might need your help to describe to me how to do thing about it. I am no good at comp. smiley
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 18th, 2009, 3:55pm »

Doum, sounds really strange what you're reporting.

1) Port forwarding should be ok as you have no problems on Mercs (Mercs and Veng use the same ports). But - usually it must be the port range 2300-2400 (tcp + udp), unless you use DXport and restrict the port range to smaller fractions like what you reported (2300-2310). You only need to do this if more then 1 computers shall be enabled for multiplayer.

2) Now for the installation problems. Prior to any new install of Veng you must delete all old Veng folders and files, even after uninstall procedure there might be some leftovers. So plz delete ALL residues from Veng install.

Next step: Rename your Mercenaries folder by adding a '#" to the folder name: ...\Microsoft Games\Mechwarrior Mercenaries#
(this will be removed after Veng installation)

Next step: Install Veng. It should now install to ...\Microsoft Games\Mechwarrior Vengeance automatically, as no prior Mercs install is detected.

Next step: Patch PR3 (make sure you have the correct language version, otherwise it wont work):
http://www.microsoft.com/games/mechwarrior4/updates.aspx

Next step:Rename back your Mercs directory by removing the "#"

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« Reply #7 on: Jul 19th, 2009, 4:03pm »

Hey frost,

As i write before i did remove everything name mechwarrior vengeance and mercenary. I clean everything about mercwarrior. Comp was completely clear. I did that many time in 6 months. That patch i use to try to install Mechwarrior 3 on my comp(6 months ago) corrupt something in window somehow and it make vengeance and merc stop working. It was a "wpapply" or something and whatever i do (Including your way), the game will never even start if i install the veng game in Mechwarrior Vengeance folder.

So now i found a way to install veng and merc and everything is ok except for the conn for veng on multiplayer. Everything else is OK.

I remember that i was able to play merc PR1 and 302b and also PR0 by having 3 different installation of mercenaries in 3 differents folders in the microsoft game folder. And all 3 games work fine even on multiplayers. So i tought i could do the same with veng. But the multiplayers in veng is showing me 3 servers but no wppc server and i cant connect to any of those 3 servers( it always say conn prob or the server is out). But pressing "detail" show me the players in these 3 server i see. So now the "join" button dont work. Comp say "conn prob or the server is out". It's weird. So i dunno what to do now except reinstalling window xp wich mean to much work of uninstall and reinstall everything.

To reinstall:
First: I have so much thing on my comp that i dont want to try that.
Second: They sell comp with window xp install, so they dont give the cd.
Third: it may cost money and time before they reinstall it.
Fourth: If force to do so, i might buy the window xp cd myself and reinstall it myself (Probably get lost trying because i never done that before). Of course i will not reinstall before i download everything on a another harddrive that i will have to purchase too.

And then there are all those upgrade of all those program i have to redone.

Headache is coming now. huh sad

So if i can, i would prefer to try to find a way to make the conn work (Join) on multiplayer with the way veng is install right now on my comp. Cause i never been so close to succeed. If merc work then veng must too. It's just a question of how to make it happen.
Any suggestion on what to check for conn?

NB: (Firewall autorise veng so i suppose it's not there.)
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« Reply #8 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 7:32pm »

Very cool,

http://www.gameranger.com/

In that gaming center i can play mechwarrior vengeance. I didnt try mercenary but the list of game that can be play in there is great. Tho there aint many players in there i can only see a few for now. I suppose if more come then the better it will be.

So, my installation of vengeance must be ok cause i can play multiplayer in there. My problem must be the firewall or IP connection or something like it. Cya all somewhere. smiley

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« Reply #9 on: Jul 27th, 2009, 11:38pm »

Welp, Doum, I don't know what to tell ya about getting on the wppc server.

Stinkin pc-based non-standardized-ip-stuff!


Well, I seemed to connect to gameranger ok. Don't know why neither you nor I could host, however...

Weird..

Anyone else try gameranger?
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